In the blog IT Security – the view from here, Rob Newby has proven his place among the great security bloggers out there. You may not always agree with Rob, but you soon realize he never puts forward a notion without making sure he knows what he is talking about.
Rob can make you tear your hair off your head, he can make you angry. (Rob does not realize it, though. Which is good IMO – he says what he has to say, regardless of the reaction. You just have to admire that).
He makes you nod in agreement, and roll on the floor with laughter. Myself, I particularly enjoy his analytical mind.
And as a true British bulldog, he is not afraid of attacking. Like when he hit the WSJ.
So Rob and I had a nice chat on MSN the other day. It was like English tea, but without the tea. And no scones either. He is a great resource for the security community, with deep knowledge, interest and most of all – his passion for making things right.
Rob told me he is a lover of crosswords. He still does the Daily Telegraph crossword everyday whilst living on the Costa Brava. I guess that is where he picks up all the fancy language then.
Add to that a degree in Physics – nuclear physics:
R: Any work in science is incredibly interesting, but can be quite limiting. I worked in a medical environment, where the budgets are small, the experiments expensive. So you learn to model experiments, use computers, often very old kit, and get the results you need by some method or other. I spent 6 months in a lab trying to detect gamma-ray photons with a reverse biased diode before discovering that NASA had done it and published the results in the IEEE magazine.
K: Sounds a bit frustrating, if you ask me.
His studies took him to IT.
R: I learnt a lot about problem solving, especially with technical equipment, troubleshooting, and how to automate boring tasks through programming. I realized I preferred the computing side to the pure physics after a while.
K: Guess what.
No.
He did get his degree. But that was it for Rob. He knew his interest was within IT. As he say:
R: It was no loss to physics I assure you.
K: He continues:
R: After University I got my first job in IT, on a helpdesk at an Investment Bank. We dealt with traders all day, "my printer doesn't work, FIX IT NOW!".
"Yes sir, is it plugged in?". Phone slams down. Etc.
I left after too much abuse from people with limited intellectual capacity.
K: He moved on quickly to different positions, finally ending up in Spain. His love is with encryption, but at present he is trying his hand with data integrity at a start up in Barcelona.
One thing I like with Rob is his true interest in the topic. Once he starts, well, need I say more?
R: Information Security as a concept is exactly what it says, the security of information. The future of security is in the data itself, but of course this means making sure authentication is strong and access controls work properly.
The data needs securing with proper confidentiality and integrity controls, and we need to be able to access it instantly, with complete visibility and easy management.
It's a tall order, but it's being solved already by the big names.
K: He explains:
R: IS as regards business is made up of 4 important facets:
i. Protection
ii. Policy
iii. Awareness
iv. Evolution
These factors loosely relate to how my generation has typically learnt about security. I think the most effective security practitioners tend to start as technical support/engineers, working mainly on technical issues based around protection on the network.
Without some form of protection, usually technical controls, a policy is only as effective as the strongest link, i.e. those who abide by the letter of the law.
The protection needs to be there for the weak links, those who deliberately or accidentally break the rules and need putting back in line.
Technical controls rarely solve policy issues, but without them, the policy is useless.
K: How does your blog fit into the picture?
R: I'm really encouraged by the number of other bloggers out there contributing to the awareness effort now, even if a lot of it isn't spot on (including my own), at least people are discussing it. That's the most important part of IS for me, discussion and evolution.
K: You seemed to be frustrated in not getting out to blog about BlackHat this year, what did you miss?
R: Events like the recent BlackHat and DefCon, although they are now being touted as "sell outs" because they are full of vendors, are important because information on attacks is being disseminated.
I was interested to see that much of the content at this year's shows was not new attacks, but new ways of using attacks to create problems. We aren't keeping up technically with the bad guys, even though there seem to be a million vendors trying to find a space.
We desperately need to evolve, but we're already trying to squeeze money from a market that is drying up because we're not moving fast enough.
K: So what impact does that have on business from an IS perspective?
R: Any discussion of IS impacts on business would not be complete without at least a mention of risk. To properly understand risk can take a lifetime, and I am by no means an expert.
One of my absolute favourites in the blogging community is Alex Hutton over at Risk Analysis, he's put me right on more than one occasion and he's not afraid to speak his mind. This is what security needs, rather than standing on soapboxes and shouting about what's right, quiet questioning and flexible beliefs.
The only problem with IS being based solely on risk is that the introduction of a new security product or process into a corporation is founded in finance. The balance of this is being slowly tipped by the introduction of regulations and laws which apply a higher level of risk for breaches.
This is driving security as a business at present, and therefore the evolution of security products, which I explained already as being crucial to the whole security process. Unless regulations are focused in the same areas as the attacks, security will not evolve evenly. The only way these regulations can address the attacks properly is by evolution, which can only take place with proper debate and awareness.
K: So do you think solutions and standards will evolve at the same rate? What are the market trends?
I think businesses will have a continuing battle trying to decide which vendors to invest in. Security is converging, the big vendors like CA, Symantec have their own proprietary systems, and now Microsoft and Google are in on the act, there is added complexity, not to mention money being thrown into the issue.
I can foresee a lot more standards being introduced so that security systems can all talk to each other in a similar way.
SOA is taking us in that direction. I think we will see open source become more popular because of it's use of SOA, and consultants in this area should do well.
As the larger companies take over this will probably be a route many existing security practitioners decide is more interesting.
As I implied previously, GRC (governance risk and compliance) will become big business, because it will be a big driver.
There are new regulations being introduced all the time, SOX and PCI DSS in the US, this year we will see MiFID in the UK and Europe. Again, I can see compliance consultants making big business here as a result.
Something that is interesting me a lot at present is The Long Tail and the security problems it poses. I’ve been discussing it for the last week with Mark Curphey and Jon Robinson (also of the SBN) and I’m still no clearer. Mark has something up his sleeve, but isn’t revealing it.
We will be using many more individualized processes out to many more customers, with customized products and therefore customized security on an individual level. This will come down to data security at the end of the day instead of trying to apply everything at the network level.
We need to see how users adapt to creating their own Web 2.0 before we can start to secure it however, and at the moment there are a lot of holes. This is somewhere where I think the large companies like MS and Google will make their security solutions, as it is difficult for the smaller companies to make a difference here now.
Thank you Rob!
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